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Arturo Magidin  
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 More options Nov 7 2009, 5:46 am
Newsgroups: sci.math
From: Arturo Magidin <magi...@member.ams.org>
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2009 21:46:01 -0800 (PST)
Local: Sat, Nov 7 2009 5:46 am
Subject: Re: Newbie Q : Problem from Herstein Regarding Rings
On Nov 6, 11:21 pm, junoexpress <mtbrenne...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi,

> I am confused by problem 10, section 3.2 from Herstein.
> The stated problem is:
> "Show that the commutative ring D is an integral domain iff for all
> a,b,c in D and a ne 0, ab=ac implies b=c"

> I read the logic of this proof as follows:

> Let D be a commutative ring  and ( D is an integral domain iff for all
> a,b,c in D and a ne 0, ab=ac implies b=c)

> I am having trouble with the proof of the back implication of this
> proposition.
> In class, we "proved" this proposition as follows:
> Suppose D is a commutative ring.
> Suppose also that for all a,b,c in D, ab = ac implies b=c
> Now, let x and y be elements in D such that x ne 0 and xy = 0
> using the basic ring property that the zero element times any element
> in D is zero, we can say:
> xy = 0 = x0
> which by our hypothesis implies y=0.
> So we have proved that xy=0 and x ne 0 implies y = 0, which implies D
> has no zero divisors (since it is logically equivalent to xy ne 0 or x
> = 0 or y = 0, which implies the statement "xy=0 and x ne 0 and y ne 0"
> is always false and can therefore never occur, hence we can have no
> zero divisors).

> PROBLEM: My problem rests with the fact that (in the proof of the back
> implication) we have showed that D is a commutative ring (given by
> hypothesis) and that D has no zero divisors, but we have not shown
> that D has a unit element, which is the third condition required in
> the definition of "integral domain"

Since 2Z is cancellative and has no zero divisors, but is not a domain
under that definition, you see that there is an unspoken assumption
there that the ring has a unit.

> So I don't see how, in problem 10 from Herstein, we can prove that the
> ring also has a unit element when we are proving the back implication.

You can't; 2Z satisfies the condition but is has no unit.

> Am I missing something or is Herstein a bit off on this one?

Check carefully to see whether he has included a "forward assumption"
of unit elements. It happens a lot. Or he could be slightly wrong
there.

--
Arturo Magidin


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