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Kusanagi  
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 More options Nov 16 2009, 5:44 am
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From: Kusanagi <Kusan...@hotmail.com>
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2009 00:44:48 EST
Local: Mon, Nov 16 2009 5:44 am
Subject: Galois extension
Is it true that an extension E of degree 2 over a field F is always Galois extension of F if the characteristic of F is not 2?

If yes, why the characteristic of F should not be 2? Any counterexample?

Thanks.


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victor_meldrew_666@yahoo. co.uk  
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 More options Nov 16 2009, 7:15 am
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From: "victor_meldrew_...@yahoo.co.uk" <victor_meldrew_...@yahoo.co.uk>
Date: Sun, 15 Nov 2009 23:15:46 -0800 (PST)
Local: Mon, Nov 16 2009 7:15 am
Subject: Re: Galois extension
On 16 Nov, 05:44, Kusanagi <Kusan...@hotmail.com> wrote:

> Is it true that an extension E of degree 2 over a field F is always Galois extension of F if the characteristic of F is not 2?

> If yes, why the characteristic of F should not be 2? Any counterexample?

A degree two extension of a characteristic two field might be
inseparable
(but must be normal).

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PB  
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 More options Nov 16 2009, 8:57 am
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From: PB <pierre.herve.bern...@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2009 00:57:35 -0800 (PST)
Local: Mon, Nov 16 2009 8:57 am
Subject: Re: Galois extension
On 16 nov, 06:44, Kusanagi <Kusan...@hotmail.com> wrote:

> Is it true that an extension E of degree 2 over a field F is always Galois extension of F if the characteristic of F is not 2?

Yes it is.
Use the following fact : any degree two polynomial X^2+aX+b in
characteristic <>2 field F which has a multiple root in some extension
E/F is reducible over F.
Proof : we know that the multiple root is -b/(2a) (characteristic <>
2 :), this root is in F, q.e.d.

> If yes, why the characteristic of F should not be 2? Any counterexample?

Take k=Z/2Z, F=k(t^2) and E=k(t).

Pierre


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AP  
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 More options Nov 17 2009, 4:12 pm
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From: AP <marc.picher...@wanadoo.fr.invalid>
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 17:12:13 +0100
Local: Tues, Nov 17 2009 4:12 pm
Subject: Re: Galois extension
On Mon, 16 Nov 2009 00:57:35 -0800 (PST), PB

yes, but
how find t such as  [E:F]=2

(if t is element of F_4 (field with 4 elements) ,  t not 0, 1 then E=F
because t^2=t+1 )


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Arturo Magidin  
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 More options Nov 17 2009, 4:16 pm
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From: Arturo Magidin <magi...@member.ams.org>
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 08:16:01 -0800 (PST)
Local: Tues, Nov 17 2009 4:16 pm
Subject: Re: Galois extension
On Nov 17, 10:12 am, AP <marc.picher...@wanadoo.fr.invalid> wrote:

t is an indeterminate. F is the field of rational functions on t^2
with coefficients in k, E is the field of rational functions with
coefficients in k.

(If you prefer, think of F as the field of rational functions, and E
as the field obtained by adjoning a square root of the
indeterminate.)

There is not t "to find"; it's an indeterminate.

> (if t is element of F_4 (field with 4 elements) ,  

No, t is an indeterminate.

>t not 0, 1 then E=F
> because t^2=t+1 )

--
Arturo Magidin

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AP  
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 More options Nov 20 2009, 4:06 pm
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From: AP <marc.picher...@wanadoo.fr.invalid>
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 17:06:54 +0100
Local: Fri, Nov 20 2009 4:06 pm
Subject: Re: Galois extension
On Tue, 17 Nov 2009 08:16:01 -0800 (PST), Arturo Magidin

<magi...@member.ams.org> wrote:
>t is an indeterminate. F is the field of rational functions on t^2
>with coefficients in k, E is the field of rational functions with
>coefficients in k.

ok thanks

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